Monday, November 19, 2007
Mark Driscoll v Brian Mclaren and others!
Found this on Andrew Jones blog followed the trail and ended up listening to a talk by a guy called Mark Driscoll can't remember how I got there, I just went back and couldn't find the links.
This guy Driscoll is strong, obviously a hard man, fancies himself, I wouldn't like to get in a fight with him, but I haven't seen him in the flesh so maybe I could take him, especially if I was tooled up, a claw hammer would do it. He's a reformed calvinist aiming to be Biblically faithful and culturally fruitful, he's clever, articulate, self defacing and in love with Jesus. He's got it all going on, a really large church, which of course gives him confidence that his way is working and therefore because of the nature of church culture, where size gives people importance, he is hard to argue with. 15th fasting growing church in America, etc....
He gets totally stuck in to Brian Mclaren and the whole emerging church thing.
One of the things that he says is the "The emergent movement in the US is blending paganism with Christianity"
Mclaren's latest gathering is called deep shift, Driscoll reckons someone accidentally put an F in! You can check out more about the US emergent movement and the deep shift thing at Emergent Village
He also stated "Jesus prayed against the emerging church", basically they have a low diminished view of scripture!
He also has some words for Rob Bell who leads a church with the same name as Marks called Mars Hill and Donald Miller author of Blue like Jazz, plus a few others.
I don't know why his talk disturbed me so much? It was more the tone than anything else.
He got very angry that Mclaren refused to be drawn on the homosexuality issue, I like Mclaren,s response, it reminded me of making every effort to live at peace with all men.
Anyway just fascinating stuff, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water listen to his talk:Covergent talks
at 12:34 PM